Comments on: Liz is wrong; Israel is in the moral right http://www.newschoolpolitics.com/objectivist-content/p-for-palestinians-for-primative/ School's out. The New School is in session. Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:03:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: New School Politics » Pay No Attention to the Coup Behind the Curtain http://www.newschoolpolitics.com/objectivist-content/p-for-palestinians-for-primative/#comment-288 New School Politics » Pay No Attention to the Coup Behind the Curtain Fri, 15 Jun 2007 19:33:42 +0000 http://www.newschoolpolitics.com/uncategorized/p-for-palestinians-for-primative/#comment-288 [...] piece together an international force to bring peace to the Palestinian territories.  As Ryan so eloquently noted,  Israel is not in the wrong here.  Over the past fifty year, they have time and time again [...] [...] piece together an international force to bring peace to the Palestinian territories.  As Ryan so eloquently noted,  Israel is not in the wrong here.  Over the past fifty year, they have time and time again [...]

]]> By: Eftychis http://www.newschoolpolitics.com/objectivist-content/p-for-palestinians-for-primative/#comment-285 Eftychis Fri, 15 Jun 2007 04:33:49 +0000 http://www.newschoolpolitics.com/uncategorized/p-for-palestinians-for-primative/#comment-285 Ryan, cudos, anyone who has too examine the basis and legitimacy of Israel's existance in the first place needs to examine their history. Aside from the moral factor (where the Israeli's are in the right as they represent an open and democratic nation, unlike Palestine where in the official foreign policy blog it is now being reported that Hamas is executing Fatah party members in the streets) Israel has a historic precident for its existance. The Palestinians do not deserve a state when they continue to infringe upon basic human rights and do not respect even their own rights to life, liberty, and property. In addition to that, most of the Palestinians were kicked off of land in Saudi Arabia and Jordan, they were ethnic minorites who were taken advantage of and when they were displaced they had no where to go but back towards Palestine. However, when they did so they found that a new state had been created. What all of these Palestinian lovers fail to recognize is that there are more people of Islamic decent (Palestinians are majority Shia I believe but there is a mix with Sunni too) inside of Israel today. In fact, Israel will cease to be a majoritarian Jewish state by 2010 (according to Thomas Friedmans 2003 Discovery Times Channel documentory, "Straddling the Fence.) My point is that there are millions of Palestinians living inside of Israel as Israel citizens enjoying modern western life, there is nothing keeping the ones throwing rocks in the streets from making their lives better. Perhaps if they stopped spending their days burning flags, convincing their children to blow themselves up, and protesting, and tried to make their lives better through constructive means they would make progress. Ryan, cudos, anyone who has too examine the basis and legitimacy of Israel’s existance in the first place needs to examine their history. Aside from the moral factor (where the Israeli’s are in the right as they represent an open and democratic nation, unlike Palestine where in the official foreign policy blog it is now being reported that Hamas is executing Fatah party members in the streets) Israel has a historic precident for its existance.
The Palestinians do not deserve a state when they continue to infringe upon basic human rights and do not respect even their own rights to life, liberty, and property. In addition to that, most of the Palestinians were kicked off of land in Saudi Arabia and Jordan, they were ethnic minorites who were taken advantage of and when they were displaced they had no where to go but back towards Palestine. However, when they did so they found that a new state had been created. What all of these Palestinian lovers fail to recognize is that there are more people of Islamic decent (Palestinians are majority Shia I believe but there is a mix with Sunni too) inside of Israel today. In fact, Israel will cease to be a majoritarian Jewish state by 2010 (according to Thomas Friedmans 2003 Discovery Times Channel documentory, “Straddling the Fence.) My point is that there are millions of Palestinians living inside of Israel as Israel citizens enjoying modern western life, there is nothing keeping the ones throwing rocks in the streets from making their lives better.
Perhaps if they stopped spending their days burning flags, convincing their children to blow themselves up, and protesting, and tried to make their lives better through constructive means they would make progress.

]]> By: Iacopo http://www.newschoolpolitics.com/objectivist-content/p-for-palestinians-for-primative/#comment-284 Iacopo Fri, 15 Jun 2007 00:27:34 +0000 http://www.newschoolpolitics.com/uncategorized/p-for-palestinians-for-primative/#comment-284 "You cannot begin characterizing Israelis and Palestinians on equal moral grounds when Likud and Labor handle disagreements through elections and open debate while Hamas and Fatah handle them with TNT and roadside bombs." nice. “You cannot begin characterizing Israelis and Palestinians on equal moral grounds when Likud and Labor handle disagreements through elections and open debate while Hamas and Fatah handle them with TNT and roadside bombs.”

nice.

]]> By: Simmons http://www.newschoolpolitics.com/objectivist-content/p-for-palestinians-for-primative/#comment-283 Simmons Thu, 14 Jun 2007 20:24:20 +0000 http://www.newschoolpolitics.com/uncategorized/p-for-palestinians-for-primative/#comment-283 IMO, you (Ryan) are completely right. Israel has always defended itself fairly and justly. With power comes critics (like what's happening to the U.S.). IMO, you (Ryan) are completely right. Israel has always defended itself fairly and justly. With power comes critics (like what’s happening to the U.S.).

]]> By: Elizabeth http://www.newschoolpolitics.com/objectivist-content/p-for-palestinians-for-primative/#comment-282 Elizabeth Thu, 14 Jun 2007 19:03:43 +0000 http://www.newschoolpolitics.com/uncategorized/p-for-palestinians-for-primative/#comment-282 Good point, but you must examine the basis and legitimacy of Israel's existence in the first place. Good point, but you must examine the basis and legitimacy of Israel’s existence in the first place.

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