Comments on: What About Open Borders? http://www.newschoolpolitics.com/domestic-politics/what-about-open-borders/ School's out. The New School is in session. Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:47:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Sariade http://www.newschoolpolitics.com/domestic-politics/what-about-open-borders/#comment-472 Sariade Tue, 28 Aug 2007 03:50:44 +0000 http://www.newschoolpolitics.com/domestic-politics/what-about-open-borders/#comment-472 These are both interesting points, but I wonder if it's just tinkering with the details of a system that was never meant to benefit anyone except a privileged few. The article "Insiders and Outsiders in Everyday Life" is an interesting take on the outsourcing issue. Find it here: http://tinyurl.com/2tv3g5 Thanks for the post. These are both interesting points, but I wonder if it’s just tinkering with the details of a system that was never meant to benefit anyone except a privileged few. The article “Insiders and Outsiders in Everyday Life” is an interesting take on the outsourcing issue. Find it here:

http://tinyurl.com/2tv3g5

Thanks for the post.

]]> By: Ryan http://www.newschoolpolitics.com/domestic-politics/what-about-open-borders/#comment-466 Ryan Sat, 25 Aug 2007 23:54:54 +0000 http://www.newschoolpolitics.com/domestic-politics/what-about-open-borders/#comment-466 i dont know that it is neccessarily a good policy to create legal classes of citizens, for many a reason--the constitution being among those. i do think it need be easier than it is now to obtain citizenship--much easier--but it should not be as easy as getting a passport (for citizens). my reasons for this are essentially practical insofar as it would be just another check on the advance of the welfare state. i dont know that it is neccessarily a good policy to create legal classes of citizens, for many a reason–the constitution being among those. i do think it need be easier than it is now to obtain citizenship–much easier–but it should not be as easy as getting a passport (for citizens). my reasons for this are essentially practical insofar as it would be just another check on the advance of the welfare state.

]]> By: Arthus Erea http://www.newschoolpolitics.com/domestic-politics/what-about-open-borders/#comment-465 Arthus Erea Sat, 25 Aug 2007 20:02:52 +0000 http://www.newschoolpolitics.com/domestic-politics/what-about-open-borders/#comment-465 I couldn't agree more that we should allow open borders. For goods, people, and everything. People should be able to travel and immigate as they see fit. That would also help to create a definitive free market of people while decreasing the size of the government. The only point I disagree upon is the policy of denying citizenship. I think citizzenship should be very easy to obtain in a perfect free world. Of course we shouldn't be giving social welfare to illegal immigrants; but we shouldn't be giving social welfare to anyone. Everyone in a country should have the ability to vote, just not recieve entitlements. Perhaps a class system of citizenship might be a good solution to this. For instance, you could apply for a lesser class of citizenship which allows voting and such, as well as giving you legal papers. This class would be very easy to obtain, but wouldn't be entitled to social welfare. Consequently, this class world have extremely low taxes - just enough to cover small government expenses. Meanwhile, the level 2 class would be the same as the current bloated system. Keep in mind that level 1 class would not be restricted purely to immigrants - anybody could apply for it, thus giving up entitlements but lowering your taxes. I couldn’t agree more that we should allow open borders. For goods, people, and everything. People should be able to travel and immigate as they see fit. That would also help to create a definitive free market of people while decreasing the size of the government.

The only point I disagree upon is the policy of denying citizenship. I think citizzenship should be very easy to obtain in a perfect free world. Of course we shouldn’t be giving social welfare to illegal immigrants; but we shouldn’t be giving social welfare to anyone. Everyone in a country should have the ability to vote, just not recieve entitlements.
Perhaps a class system of citizenship might be a good solution to this. For instance, you could apply for a lesser class of citizenship which allows voting and such, as well as giving you legal papers. This class would be very easy to obtain, but wouldn’t be entitled to social welfare. Consequently, this class world have extremely low taxes - just enough to cover small government expenses. Meanwhile, the level 2 class would be the same as the current bloated system. Keep in mind that level 1 class would not be restricted purely to immigrants - anybody could apply for it, thus giving up entitlements but lowering your taxes.

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