Giuliani Positioned As GOP’s Small Government Candidate
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Although best known for his leadership on 9/11, Rudy Giuliani’s best attribute is probably how well he ran New York City where he lowered taxes, reversed the budget deficit, cracked down on crime, etc. Now he is trying to position himself as the small government candidate among the Republican Party’s contenders for the presidential nomination.
On issues from taxation to healthcare he is pushing for free market reforms in order to ensure the nation’s prosperity while he accuses the Democrats of advocating a “nanny state”. From the AP:
Republican presidential hopeful Rudy Giuliani on Monday accused Democrats of favoring a controlling “nanny government” as he continued his bashing of the rival party.
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Giuliani argued that he favors less government and lower taxes.
“That’s what makes America great, not this nanny government that Democrats want to give us, where government controls your entire life,” he said.
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On Tuesday, Giuliani intends to outline his health care plan. Giuliani’s goal is to give individuals more control over health care decisions and to encourage state officials to come up with innovative solutions.
Key to his plan is a $15,000 tax deduction for families to buy private health insurance, instead of getting insurance through employers. Any leftover funds could be rolled over year-to-year for medical expenses, under Giuliani’s plan.
Even on social issues, which tend to be very polarizing in American politics, Giuliani offers a unique, constitutional alternative:
Giuliani argues that the best way to reduce tension about social issues is to allow states, rather than the federal government, to take the lead in responding to them. That would allow socially conservative and liberal states to each set rules that reflect the prevailing values inside their borders. Rather than perpetual combat in Washington, he insists, the nation could reach a new equilibrium as different states gravitated to different solutions.
In an interview last week, Giuliani said the key to resolving cultural arguments “where our society on a national level ends up being very divided” is to apply the “principle of federalism.” Questions on topics such as gun control, gay rights or aspects of abortion, he continued, “are issues that I think the founding fathers would say should be consigned to state and local governments, experimenting, deciding, having different views, and the federal government having a more limited role.”
The fact their top primary candidate is arguing for free market and federalist reforms in Washington should give comfort to Republicans who have witnessed the GOP descend from the modern party of small government, pioneered by Reagan and Goldwater, to become the other party of big government in the past 12 years. So much is put on the fact that Giuliani isn’t pro-life, nor pro marriage amendment, nor religious that no one has even bothered to look at his positions which would have a far greater impact.
Although I am supporting Ron Paul–who is the truest advocate of limited domestic government–I concede that I would support Rudy Giuliani out of the top four GOP contenders (Giuliani, Thompson, McCain, and Romney). And furthermore I urge those Republicans who long to stop the advance of the nanny state to support Giuliani in the face of the most popular alternatives.
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The problem is I think Rudy will just be a
somebody | 31 07 2007The problem is I think Rudy will just be a continuation of Bush’s foreign policy. And you can’t have a global War on Terror without big government and more invasion of our privacies.
"Although I am supporting Ron Paul–who is the truest advocate
Jasonik | 31 07 2007“Although I am supporting Ron Paul–who is the truest advocate of limited domestic government–I concede that I would support Rudy Giuliani out of the top four GOP contenders (Giuliani, Thompson, McCain, and Romney). And furthermore I urge those Republicans who long to stop the advance of the nanny state to support Giuliani in the face of the most popular alternatives.”
Giuliani is a police state proto-fascist who has merely co-opted Ron Paul’s rhetoric. Don’t be fooled by Giuliani, he is a corrupt duplicitous authoritarian demagogue bent only on gaining power for himself and his criminal cronies.
Judging from the above, you don’t understand Ron Paul’s positions or ideology if “9/11 Rudy” is seen as a palatable substitute.
There can be no substitute for LIBERTY, no substitute for TRUTH, and no substitute for INTEGRITY.
Yes, indeed. Rudy Giuliani is the closest to Ron
Eric Dondero | 31 07 2007Yes, indeed. Rudy Giuliani is the closest to Ron Paul’s limited government views. Note, ontheissues.org rates Ron Paul at 70/70 and Rudy Giuliani right behind him with 60/60. Obviously, Giuliani is far more electable, and has broader appeal.
Eric Dondero, Fmr. Senior Aide
US Congressman Ron Paul (R-TX)
1997-2003
now National Chairman,
Libertarians for Giuliani at http://www.mainstreamlibertarian.com
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Believe it or not, I do understand where “somebody” and
Ryan | 1 08 2007Believe it or not, I do understand where “somebody” and “Jasonik” are coming from and those very arguments I have weighed myself. So let me first say that Giuliani is by no means an unequivocal advocate of limited government; simply he is the most in favor of limited government of all of the candidates from either party who actually have a chance of receiving the nomination.
I also understand that he is very much a self-promoter and that he has shown a certain authoritarian tendency when fighting crime, in the wake of 9/11, etc. however those cases by and large have to do with the means of running the government and do not relate as much to its ends or to policies.
Additionally, remember that limited government is fundamentally about preserving individual rights, which requires government protection from belligerents foreign and domestic. well, my conclusion is that the areas where Giuliani wants more government generally relate to serving those functions-keeping law and order as well as punishing foreign enemies.
I additionally recognize that Giuliani holds a different view on how to deal with the Islamist threat than most libertarians (neolibertarians, Objectivists, as well as others aside). However his dissention does not represent a departure from libertarian philosophy in that he believes that since we were attacked and since there exists a real and potent threat to our liberties that our government must fight the threat until it is destroyed. Basically Paul and Giuliani have evaluated the threat in two different ways—the former believes that it is created by American intervention and the latter believes that its cause is an ideology that wants Islam to conquer the world—and thus their policies accord.
All I am saying is that Giuliani appears to hold a political philosophy that is closer to a philosophy of limited government than the other frontrunners in his party—Thompson, Romney, McCain.
I'm sorry to break the news, but you and that
Jasonik | 1 08 2007I’m sorry to break the news, but you and that disgruntled Dondero clown are simply ideological philistines. Get a clue.
At least vote for Romney if you can’t grasp Paul’s message. At least Mitt’s wife and children still love him, and he’s not evil to the core. Giuliani is a shameful human being whereas Romney, though ideologically misguided and a class A panderer, is as wholesome as they come.
while i disagree w/ paul on foreign policy particulars--although i
Ryan | 2 08 2007while i disagree w/ paul on foreign policy particulars–although i do think that iraq is a mess and that “nation building” comes at a severe cost to the US–i will still support him b/c i believe his general political philosophy is a far greater plus than his pacifist foreign policy is a negative (basically i say that our net freedoms will increase by a lot under paul).
but again what i am saying about giuliani is that he is the best of the rest in that he will be the most feverent supporter of smaller government at home. here is an article comparing the healthcare policies of romney and giuliani–i really do think that romney is completely hollow and that he is not much behind his cool facade.
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/Story?id=3436959&page=1
http://www.911reasons.com
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